Doran

Surname: Doran
Christian Names: Kenneth James
Country: Australia
State or Province: NSW
City or Town: Gulgong
Service: Army
Case Notes:

Kenneth James Doran is the Public Officer for an organization called Veterans Villages Incorporated operating in the Taree, Forster/Tuncurry area.  See the fair trading document below.

aka Ken Doran, David Doran & Rodney Doran.

Mr. Doran has made claims of war service in Viet Nam, of being an Army Officer, of being currently on leave of absence from the Department of Foreign Affairs and having a contract with the Government.  He and his two associates were sent from our Nations Capital to expose wannabes in the Taree area of NSW. One of these cohorts claims to have saved Doran’s life in Viet Nam.  The basic fact is that Mr. K. J. Doran served in the Army for 11 months before being discharged on Psychiatric grounds.  No overseas service.  No discharge as a Major.

Doran also acted as a Pensions/Welfare Officer with the Viet Nam Veterans Federation Great Lakes sub-Branch in Forster.  He is currently operating within the Taree Vietnam Veterans Group.

It was at a meeting in Taree, convened by Doran on the 26th July 2001 of ex-service organizations that included representatives of the TPI Association, Taree RSL, Taree Legacy, War Widows Guild, Veterans Partners Support Group, Great Lakes VVF sub-Branch and Veterans Villages Inc. that Doran was first challenged over his service details.

 It was noted that Doran was wearing a Returned from Active Service Badge on the left lapel of his coat. When questioned on his service Doran claimed to be a National Serviceman and that he had served with 1RAR in 1965 and then again with 3RAR in 1969.  Prior checks of the Viet Nam Veterans Nominal Roll failed to reveal any person by the name of Ken Doran ever serving in Viet Nam.  Once again Doran was challenged on his name at which time he stated his real name was David Doran, he had changed his name for reasons he was not prepared to divulge at the meeting.  A legitimate Veteran who had previously questioned Doran’s bona fides was drummed out of a Veteran’s organisation.    See the letter below.

The wearing of the Returned From Active Service badge [RASB], when not entitled, is a Federal offence.

It has been reported that the number on the RASB that he wears is A473738.  A check of this number through archival records is yet to be conducted to see who this badge was issued to

 He has also claimed to be Rodney James Doran. 

R.J. Doran did serve with the Australian Army Assistance Group, Viet Nam in 1972. He was born in 1952 and is much younger than the Doran in question.

A check of archived Defence Department records at the Australian National Archives, revealed Kenneth James Doran served with the Australian Regular Army from September 1964 to August 1965 (11 months) in that period of time he served with the Royal Australian Infantry and Royal Australian Army Medical Corps.

Kenneth James Dorandid not serve overseas or on active service and received no Medals or awards so he could not have been a National Service Lieutenant who served with 1 RAR in Viet Nam, 1965. In fact, 1RAR’s first tour was the only tour that was comprised of Regular soldiers only. No National Servicemen.

 Doran tells many different stories about his service details and pulls the “I’m still covered under the Official Secrets Act” bit as the guise for not producing any documentation of his service. This is also indicated in the letter displayed above and it would appear that Doran used this to ‘pull the wool’ over the eyes of the executive of the VVA. Great Lakes   Doran, if not already aware, will be after seeing himself here, that all Viet Nam Veterans records are now available to the general public and the said 30 year secrecy act for Viet Nam is over.

 As occurs many times in this kind of situation, the President of the Veterans Association, which Doran is a member of, strongly defends Doran’s claimed status.   Veteran Organisations who insist in covering for bogus Veterans will also be named on this site as it would appear that such organisations are not doing proper service checks prior to accepting members.

 Doran has admitted in an interview with a reporter from the Sydney Daily Telegraph that he had never served in Viet Nam.

Doran has now parted company with the Forster group and has established a group in Taree, doing the same thing and making the same false claims of veteran status. Some in Forster still send veterans to Doran for assistance.

1….Doran claims to be in possession of a DVA White (specific treatment) Card.  CPMH is well aware that Doran has no entitlement to DVA authorised Veterans medical treatment.

2….The previous President of the V.V.A.Taree Sub-Branch organised support to remove Doran from the Association premises. This was done in the interests of the members and the Ex-Service Community at large.

At an extraordinary meeting held on Tuesday 9th September, this President of six months was voted out by Doran supporters. A non-Veteran, Trevor Brauer, was re-installed as President. Doran was applauded as he entered the room after hiding out in the car park.

One comment made at the meeting by a Doran supporterwas “ I don’t care what the constitution says, we’ll run it our way” The Association Secretary resigned on the spot. He was immediately replaced by a Doran supporter.

This meeting was so stressful for many of those in attendance that some left and those remaining needed a 30 minute break to restore their composure.

Attention was paid to the immediate changing of bank account signatories.

 3….The Taree V.V.A. Sub-Branch is back in Doran’s hands with his wife installed as the advocate for AAT and VRB matters.

4…. Another meeting will be held by the Sub-Branch on the 12th of October 2003 to consider its future with one item on the agenda being to move away from the Granville V.V.A.and form another group to possibly be incorporated.

 WHYis this information here on this site ??? It’s here to demonstrate just what can happen to decent, honest, Ex-Service people who have done their level best to provide a   friendly atmosphere and quality, free, advocacy to genuine Veterans. Those previous members who may have been in a fragile state at the time are probably a lot worse off now. What do they do and where do they go now that their sense of belonging to a once highly regarded organisation has been removed? Removed by a bludging wannabe and his bludging wannabe cohorts who demand money for providing useless advocacy.

14 Sep 06

We have seen in the past, that when a wannabe gets into a position of power in an ex services organisation, he invites others of similar ilk, they have no innate respect for real Veterans and operate the ex service organization in a manner to suit their personal needs, they also take on roles of "assisting" genuine Veterans with claims for benefits and in general welfare situations, the wannabes are naturally dishonest and steer their whole operation towards dishonest practices to the detriment of the innocent Veterans seeking help.

There is a group of such people involved in an independent veteran's operation in Taree in NSW. It is the Taree Vietnam Veterans Association. Mr James Meehan is the President, Mr Graham Stenner the Public Officer, and lurking in the back ground pulling the strings of his puppets is Mr Ken Doran. This crew is then fortified by the likes of "Captain" Russell Lee Jones.

     DORAN       MEEHAN       STENNER          JONES 

In the past we have named Kenneth James Doran of Taree to be a liar, a scoundrel and a wannabe. Doran exhibits the guile of a sociopath and he has a group of easily lead sycophants who have obviously been mesmerised by this con-man.

In our original report we advised that Doran had worn a Returned from Active Service Badge (RASB) that he claimed to be his own. We all know that he has no entitlement to a RASB because he has never been involved in any overseas military operations – ever.  The badge he wore was numbered A473738. The badge owner has come forward and given us a Statutory Declaration regarding this transaction. He states inter alia

In 2001, Ken Doran, of Vietnam Veterans Taree, was acting as my advocate with DVA. He asked me to loan my RAS Badge to XXX XXXXXX, an ex National Serviceman, so that he had a badge to wear at a march.  

I had to press Doran for the return of the badge. 

"I have recently read an article about Doran being a Vietnam Veteran impostor.  Apparently, when Doran was challenged. In July 2001, about his bona fides he was wearing a RAS Badge and quoted the number A473738. That badge was mine"  

Doran is known to have worn this badge and said that it was his own. The wearing of the RASB, when not entitled, is a Federal offenceagainst Sect 80B of the Defence Act 1903

You are reminded of the following.....

Kenneth James Doran served with the Australian Regular Army from September 1964 to August 1965 (11 months) in that period of time he served with the Royal Australian Infantry and Royal Australian Army Medical Corps before being discharged on Psychiatric grounds.  He was never in Vietnam and was never an Infantry Officer.

An illustration of the extent of Doran's deceit is in an aspect that was not revealed in the original story. You should recall that Doran told a newspaper that he was not a Vietnam Veteran.

Doran claims in the article to have made only one "off the cuff" remark about being a veteran. He is a liar, he has made many claims about being a veteran as well as wearing a Returned from Active Service Badge and showing people a newspaper clipping about his "Vietnam service"

Prior to saying he was not a Vietnam Veteran, Doran had shown this to numerous people that "proved" his involvement in "secret operations" in Vietnam. It illustrates the strength of his criminal intent to fraudulently portray himself as a Vietnam Veteran.

 

Remember we noted some of Doran's aliases on our Cases page...."aka Ken Doran, David Doran & Rodney Doran" and this from his original exposure at the top of this page.... "Once again Doran was challenged on his name at which time he stated his real name was David Doran, he had changed his name for reasons he was not prepared to divulge at the meeting"

The clipping is a simpleton's photocopy fake. Newspapers do not use "True Type" font. There are no paragraph indentations, the grammar is poor and "immediately" is wrongly spelt.

More importantly the clipping maliciously and wrongly indicates disgraceful behaviour by an Australian unit, easily identified as 1 RAR who worked with the US 173rd Airborne Brigade during 1965 - 66.

It purports to be a report of his Courts Martial in Canberra, although the quality is poor we show it here to illustrate that although Doran has said he has never claimed to be a Vietnam Veteran, the planning and production of this document was executed with only one intention, and that was to prove he was a Vietnam Veteran and an Infantry Officer who was in the thick of clandestine operations. The newspaper states that at a courts martial in Canberra he was exonerated in relation to six charges of unlawful execution of six Viet Cong prisoners in Vietnam.   

The fact that Doran dressed in the uniform of an Infantry Lieutenant for the photo is indicative of the extent of his careful planning for the purpose of deceiving people. It is also indicative that he has in his possession for whatever purpose an Infantry Officers military uniform.

We now name James Sidney Meehan, President of the Taree Vietnam Veterans Association, as a liar, a fraud, and a generally dishonest person.  

Meehan was in the Royal Australian Navy and visited Vietnam in 1969 for just a few hours and during this time he never set foot on land at all.   Meehan is one of those people who submit outrageously exaggerated claims to the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) in the hope of pension payments and other benefits, not only did this poor excuse for a man submit dishonest claims but he had the audacity to appeal decisions made by DVA and subsequent judicial bodies. Finally, at the end of the line, The Administrative Appeals Tribunal cleared up a few "errors" in his evidence. It just so happens that all of the "errors" formed the very basis of his quest for compensation and a pension:

If you look here http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/aat/2003/429.html  (according to other information, his names are James Sydney, not Sydney James) You will see that evidence showed:

"That, when the whole of the material is considered, it is clear that Mr Meehan's memory is very seriously flawed, multiple examples were offered.    

(a)      He wrongly thought he was in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. His first visit was in fact 12 months after the Tet Offensive.   

(b)      He thought he had been to Vietnam five times whereas he went only twice.  

(c)      He thought he was in Vietnam for five months whereas he was in Vung Tau Harbour on two occasions for only 5 ½ hours on each occasion  

(d)      He thought he had seen people being killed and injured whereas he had seen no such thing  

(e)      He incorrectly thought he had transported body bags  

(f)       He thought he was part of a group of three clearance divers who checked the hull of the HMAS Sydney below the water line whereas he performed no such function  

(g)      He thought he had been a sentry in the bow of a landing craft in Vung Tau Harbour at night whereas his ship had been in Vung Tau Harbour only in daylight - the ship was in Vung Tau Harbour from 7.00 am to 12.25 pm on one trip and from 6.55 am to 12.25 pm on the second trip).  

(h)      He thought he heard scare charges in Vung Tau Harbour at night while in his bunk when in fact he was never in Vung Tau Harbour at night.

It's nice to know that costs were awarded against Meehan and rightly so. Let us say what the tribunal didn't say – James Sydney Meehan is a liar and his other  qualification is that he is one of Doran's disciples. Nefarious, dishonest people like Meehan clog up the DVA system and cause genuine needy veterans to wait in line behind these liars and cheats.   

Graham Stenner, the Public Officer of the Taree Vietnam Veterans Association, is a liar and a close associate of Doran. 

Stenner has publicly stated that he had two NSW ex-detectives investigate Doran's bona fides and they reported back to him that Doran was a genuine veteran....An obvious lie.

Stenner's allegedly phoney war stories are in a league of their own too. He saved Doran's life in Vietnam?...... Maybe not.

President of the Taree Vietnam Veterans Association 2003 - 2004 and another member of this "push" is "Captain Russell Lee Jones (MN)" another proven liar, who is featured on our Cases page immediately above this entry.

We believe that the group of liars is more than a quartet and more likely to be a sextet or a whole orchestra. This is because liars and cheats are drawn to one another as is the case with Doran, Meehan, Stenner and Jones of the Taree Vietnam Veteran's Association.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

 

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