Stolen Valour

Stolen Valour

Surname: Storer
Christian Names: Bernard James
Country: Australia
State or Province: Victoria
City or Town: Unknown
Service: Army
Branch: Provost
Commencement of service: 1966
Completion of service: 1968
Case Notes:

 

BERNARD JAMES STORER UPDATE APRIL, 2019.

On each occasion, we view a photograph of Bernard Storer, former Australian Army Military Police Corporal, 1966 – 1968, he is wearing an additional medal.

In this photograph, he also poses before a United States Army Poster, portraying the image that he is either a former U.S. Army Serviceman or an Australian who served in the U.S. Army. We are not sure why he thinks that is necessary.

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Storer continues to wear the Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm that he purchased on ebay or a Medal Dealer and presented it to himself. He also now wears the Victoria Police Service medal for ethical and diligent behaviour. This is the last medal on his current rack. The medal and riband are shown below.


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This is a State issued internal Victoria Police Medal. Commonwealth Governor General’s protocols dictate that State medals should be worn on the right hand side and not added to or mixed with Federal issued medals worn on the left. Storer would be well aware of these protocols, but has added the State medal to embellish his rack.

Storer now rightly wears the National Medal for 15 years service in the Victoria Police Force. He is also entitled to one clasp for a further 10 years service. However, he has taken the liberty of awarding himself an extra second clasp, which indicates at least a 35 year career in that office.

Its an Honour, Canberra, indicates that Storer was issued the National Medal in May, 1987 and one clasp in September, 1990, the year he left the Police Force.

Further updates on Storer will be published periodically on ANZMI, as his medal rack continues to grow.

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3785919 Bernard James Storer was conscripted into the Australian Army in 1966.  Following completion of his Recruit Training, he was posted to Southern Command, Royal Australian Army Provost Corps, Melbourne.  He then completed his Corps Training and was promoted to the rank of Corporal.

On the 21 June, 1967, Storer was posted to 1 Divisional Provost Company, Vietnam.  For the following 9 months he served at Vung Tau, Nui Dat and Saigon as a Military Police Non Commissioned Officer.

His duties consisted of normal Military Police duties in those three locations and his service would not be regarded as out of the ordinary or exceptional.
Storer returned to Australia in March 1968 and returned to his former employment.

In the above photograph taken recently, Storer is wearing the following medals -:

1.      Australian Active Service Medal 1945-75  clasp Vietnam              Entitled

2.      Australian Vietnam Medal                                                          Entitled

3.      Australian Defence Medal                                                          Entitled

4.      National Service Medal                                                              Entitled

5.      Gallantry Cross with Palm (Republic of Vietnam Medal)                Not Entitled

6.      Vietnam Campaign Medal                                                          Entitled.

There seems to be a growing propensity of former Vietnam Veterans to wear this Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm.  If it has not been awarded officially by the former Republic of Vietnam Government and it is not recorded on your service records, you are not entitled to wear it.  It is as simple as that. 

The Medal can be purchased on the Internet for about $20.00 and this is what Storer and all the other medal cheats have done to improve their rack.


If you wear medals that you are not entitled to wear, then you can expect to be photographed and placed on the ANZMI site.  Our operatives are dispersed throughout Australia and New Zealand and the veteran community are sickened by the amount of genuine veterans adding non earned medals to their genuine rack for no other reason than to inflate their own ego and glorify their service.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from the private citizens are supported by statement of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Goss
Christian Names: Roger David
Country: Australia
State or Province: Unknown
City or Town: Unknown
Service: Nil
Case Notes:

Roger David Goss  aka “Rod” Goss

Roger “Rod” David Goss is an Australian who has resided in the Otaki region of New Zealand (NZ) for the past ten years. Since arriving in NZ he has created the false persona of a pain racked wounded Vietnam Veteran.

 He uses his fictitious “Vietnam wounding” to elevate himself to local hero status and has published details of his “Vietnam wounding” and his ongoing chronic pain in two health brochures, in addition, he has set up a web site to help others who suffer chronic pain  He also blames his tobacco addiction to his “Army” service.

 

We have included extracts from the two Health brochures where Goss purports to have been an Australian soldier who was shot and wounded in Vietnam. Here is the first pamphlet:

In the Quite smoking brochure Goss went on the say

"The challenge of quitting was compounded by the chronic and serious pain Rod’s suffered since being shot when the bullet nicked his colon. He had believed smoking helped the pain but research has convinced him smoking interferes with the pain relief and that everything he believed about smoking was “brainwashing.”

If a bullet nicked Goss’s Colon it meant that he was “gut shot” The Colon is the large bowel, see the diagram below:

 

Officers handing cigarettes to wounded soldiers is only something that you may see in a John Wayne movie, it did not happen in Vietnam.  Furthermore Australian soldiers were not given two packets of "Marlborough" cigarettes a day as described by Goss.  Goss must have been a bit of a hero because he reckons “The Yanks gave me cigarettes for keeping them out of trouble”.  Simply put Goss is a liar.

Goss does not appear on either of the two Australian Department of Veterans Affairs Vietnam Nominal Rolls.  We also checked the New Zealand Veterans Affairs Nominal Roll and he does not get a mention.  Goss’s “gut shot” wounding would have been a high profile event, details would not be missing from the very accurate and comprehensive Web site “The Casualty List” that lists all Australian and New Zealand Casualties from the Vietnam war.  He is not listed.   

We have been officially notified that National Archives are unable to locate an Army Service Record for Roger David Goss.

Service record inquiry -  [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Dear Ms xxxxxxx

CARO could not identify a service record for Goss, Roger David.

xxxxxx

Reference & Information Services
National Archives of Australia, Melbourne
PO Box 8005 Burwood Heights Vic 3151

We are also reliably advised by people who knew Goss at the time of the Vietnam War that he never served in the Australian Defence Force.

The second health pamphlet is about pain management and Goss again claimed to have been wounded in Vietnam and as a result suffers residual pain. See an extract below.

 

 

 Goss has created a false military history, then used the false military history as a “lynch pin” to be a minor celebrity in his community.  He even set up his own web site as a consultant on Chronic Pain management. Of course, the cause of his chronic pain was being “gut shot” in Vietnam.   Details from the web site are shown below and it can be found at:   http://www.finda.co.nz/business/listing/1c21/chronic-pain-support-foundation/

Chronic Pain Support Foundation

6/34 Kirk Street

We provide support for ALL pain sufferers. On line Newsletter. Meetings. Assessments. News about new treatments. ACC Advocacy. Why suffer pain alone? Contact Rod today, for full, no obligation details. We are endorsed by Mid Central Health Pain Unit, and have access to information even your Doctor may not know. WE WILL ALSO SUPPORT YOUR LOVED ONES with friendly advice, contacts, and regular Newsletters. We have meetings, fun days, and help you make new friends who genuinely share your pain issues. WHY BE ALONE - WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. All information is strictly confidential. You have nothing to lose but your pain. Membership is just $5.00 per year. Check our our Web Site at http://cpsf.iws.co.nz/ REMEMBER WE SUFFER CHRONIC PAIN TOO, SO WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH. WE CAN HELP. TRY US! I PROMISE WE WON'T LET YOU DOWN.
National Coordinator - Rod Goss. B.SIA. Dip.N (Psych)

Business Hours

Open 24 hours a day                    

Parking   provided

Payment Options

Cash

Personal Cheque

Business Cheque

Online Payments

Brands

Our Own

 

5 - 49 Employees

Products/Services

Regular Newsletter

Medical Information

Assessment Service

ACC Advocacy

Meetings

Drug Information

New Contacts

Pain Relief

Notice how Goss uses the qualifications of B.SIA and Dip N (Psych). Whether they are as "genuine" as his military service we don’t know?

The good citizens from Otaki in New Zealand should now be aware that Goss has never served in any Army in Vietnam, and therefore was never wounded in Vietnam.

Goss may suffer from pain and have been a tobacco addict but it had nothing to do with war service and it is obvious that whilst he may or may not  be  a chronic pain sufferer he is definitely a chronic fraud, liar and wannabe.

Goss has enjoyed his New Zealand fantasy for ten years.  The general public and Australian and New Zealand Veterans will now see Goss in a different light knowing that he is a con man.

Roger David Goss is hereby presented on our web site so that his posterity will know his true military history, which is an empty book.

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Francis
Christian Names: Michael James
Country: Australia
State or Province: Queensland
City or Town: Emerald
Service: Army (Claimed)
Branch: Infantry and Armoured Corps
Commencement of service: Claims 1998
Completion of service: Unknown
Case Notes:

 

Michael James Francis claims to be a Returned Veteran, and wears numerous medals and accoutrements to prove it. In fact Francis is the epitome of a cheat, Liar, fraud and wannabe



Notice that Francis wears:

An Armoured Corps beret and hat badge
An Infantry Combat Badge. (ICB)
A red sash worn by Infantry Sergeants on ceremonial occasions

Nine medals including a:

Commendation for Gallantry (CG)
Australian Active Service Medal (AASM)
The remaining seven medals are difficult to discern, but appear to include service in Timor, Afghanistan and Iraq.

The CG is a very prestigious award and only a very disreputable person would wear it without having earned it.



Francis says that all of the medals he wears are replicas, because his genuine medals are ensconced in a family safe.

Francis was contacted and requested to provided proof of his service. He produced no documentary evidence but provided a slick commentary. Here is what he said.

"Michael Francis
Wed, May 29, 12:07 PM (6 days ago) to me

"Hi xxxx

I Enlisted December 1998 after completing basic training I completed further training at the school of infantry in Singleton. I was then posted to 5th Battalion for 3 years. After my time there I served 2 years with the 6th Battalion based at Enoggera and a vacancy came up to transfer to armoured Corp this was were (sic) I always wanted to serve. So I went down to the school of Armour in Puckapunyal. After I completed my training I was posted to the 2/14 LHR. For three years. After my three years. I got the lucky card and got a overseas posting in America on a exchange program. Great learning experience. When I returned to Australia I took a posting with 2Cav. I then returned to puckapunal as a instructor at the school of Armour. After my time there transferred to reserves 51 FNQR 42 Battalion so I could start my adult apprenticeship as a Truck Mechanic and still serve".


We have been unable to substantiate any of the service he has described above. He also sent the names and telephone numbers of three referees. Two of them know Francis but know nothing of his service. The third does not answer his phone. Francis was asked to provide a Statutory Declaration detailing his service, instead he sent us a photograph of a $25 self purchased Children's Deployment medal that he said belonged to his daughter. He included this paragraph in an explanation "My daughter sent me some photos of her medal thought you might like to see it it’s given to the children when there parents are deployed have a great weekend talk soon Mick"



Francis has been given every opportunity to prove his service. In addition we have taken due diligence in checking his stated service and have no doubt that he is a fraud who took a chance of being seen as a hero in a small Queensland country town on ANZAC Day 2019.

In every corner of Australia there are now people who deplore those who steal the honour of our Defence service people.

The false kudos from being a fake hero will be well surpassed by the dishonour of being exposed to the world as a cheat, liar and wannabe.

Welcome Michael James Francis to your self inflicted and dishonourable time on this website.

Surname: Schafer
Christian Names: Robert Neville
Country: Australia
State or Province: Unknown
City or Town: Unknown
Service: Army
Branch: Infantry
Case Notes:

 

Robert Neville Schafer - Phantom of the Jungle??

Robert Schafer served as a Driver with an Infantry Battalion in Vietnam from 28th  Dec 1967 to 6th Aug 1968.

He enlisted as a National Serviceman on the 29 Sep 1965 and was discharged 29 Sep 1968. He obviously committed himself to an extra year to serve in Vietnam, which is very commendable.  It is unfortunate that Schafer has foolishly navigated himself onto the Wannabe reef.

 

 

Schafer is another, who claims to have been a Phantom of the Jungle having served with the Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) in Vietnam, but of course cannot speak about it because of the Official secrets Act.  Like all wannabes though, it is no good being a hero if you cannot talk about it, so bit by bit he dropped little pieces of his SASR service to both individuals and to groups.

At hospital group meetings he has blamed his SASR Vietnam Service for his Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. He has said he was involved in ambushes deep in the jungle away from the Australian Base and was part of a group assigned to kill Viet Cong leaders around Hanoi. Schafer also claims to have been Wounded in Action in Vietnam.

Here are the two cards that make up Schafer’s record of service, they show that his service was routine and as follows:

29 Sep 1965  Enlisted  -  Recruit Training

8   Dec 1965  Posted to 3rd Battalion of the Royal Australian Regiment (3 RAR) as a Rifleman

28 Jun  1966  Changed employment to Driver still at 3 RAR.

29 Sep 1967  Re-engaged for a further twelve months.

27 Dec 1967  Departed Adelaide

28 Dec 1967 Arrived Vietnam serving with 3RAR

6  Aug  1968 Departed Vietnam

29 Sep 1968 Discharged from the Army.

Below is an extract from the Department of Veterans Affairs (DVA) Nominal Roll showing that during his whole service in Vietnam Schafer was a Private soldier with 3 RAR. We are reliably advised that he served with Administration Company in the role of Driver Employment Code Number (ECN) 302

 

 

Claims of service with elite units is in epidemic proportions Army SASR and Tunnel Rat, Engineer Units are popular as well as Royal Australian Navy Clearance Divers. We have never had a Wannabe who was a Clerk or a Cook or one of the hundreds of other mundane, but essential jobs that support front line troops. They all want to be heroes.

We have cases stacked up waiting to be processed, and we warn Wannabes that they could be next into the breech and about to be named and shamed on our web site. If you have been claiming false service, we suggest you contact those you have been fooling, apologise and hope we don’t know about you.

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Donohue
Christian Names: Neville McBryde
Country: Australia
State or Province: Victoria
City or Town: Dandenong
Service: Army
Branch: Signals
Case Notes:

 

UPDATE 11 JULY19

Neville McBryde Donohue was originally exposed as fraud and wannabe on this website in 2013, after he wore an amazing array of Defence medals that he purported had been presented to him.



Following that exposure he was charged by Victoria Police and put before a Magistrates Court. On that occasion he chose to lie and present false documents. It then took another five years of Court actions to find him guilty of wearing false medal as well as a raft of other charges that he earned whilst tussling with Magistrates and Judges

In 2018 he was finally sentenced to two years and nine months imprisonment. Had he shut his mouth and taken his deserved punishment on his first appearance at court he most likely would have earned a monetary fine and a moderate tirade from the Magistrate.

Donohue is not enjoying his current service with the Queen, and applied to the Court of Appeal to make a late appeal against the sentence he is currently serving. The appeal was heard on 2 Jul 2019.

He has served nine months of the minimum two years nine months he is serving for perjury, perverting the course of justice and making a number of false documents.

Donohue, in his usual cavalier manner, appealed his original sentence on the basis that:

The documents were never received and,
The sentence was to severe.
The Judge erred in his decision.

The Appellant Judges found that the Sentencing Judge, had not only taken all plea material into account, he had also given Donohue an absolute minimum sentence.

In disallowing the appeal, the Appellant Judges stated that no error in sentencing had been made and that, if any appeal took place Donohue would most likely end up having his sentence increased.

Appeal was dismissed, and Donohue has two years more to contemplate his actions.

Perhaps Donohue will now shut up and stop being an idiot who believes he is clever enough to beat our judicial system with falsehoods and forged evidence.

After six years of activity, we hope that Donohue realises that offences that bring discredit to Veterans and ex Service people does not pay, except for board and lodgings.

 

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UPDATE - "Major General" Neville McBryde DONOHUE

Like Napoleon "Major General" Donohue has met his Waterloo. If he behaves himself will be receiving free board and lodgings in a Victoria prison for two years and nine months, if he misbehaves it will be for at least four years and five months.

It has taken six years to get him into prison. Had he fronted court on the first occasion he was charged by police, he would have received a small fine got on with his life. Below are the details of the final episode in the Donohue saga.

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UPDATE DONOHUE – April, 2018

Neville McBryde Donohue must now understand that Australian and New Zealand Veterans, ex Servicepersons and the long arm of the law are relentless.  It took five years of Donohue's nonsensical manoeuvres to get him squared away in jail.  He tried all the tricks of a seasoned con man.

He claimed to have terminal cancer and produced forged documents as proof, for which he copped further charges.  On another occasion he produced a Statutory Declaration declaring that he was required for  "special military duty" involving "secret work"

Here is the Statutory Declaration:

 

 Donohue

 

 

Of course he received more charges for the false declaration.

The Police appear to have delved deep into his past and presented Donohue with a raft of other charges as follows:

Use false document to prejudice other (3 counts),

Obtain property by deception (4 counts),

Attempt to obtain property by deception,

Fail to answer bail (3 counts),

Improper use of Defence Service decoration (2 counts),

Impersonate returned soldier (2 counts),

Drive whilst authorization suspended (3 counts),

Impersonate a public official (7 counts,)

Fail to notify employer of cancelled licence (2 counts),

Obtain financial advantage by deception,

Theft from shop.

As detailed in our previous update of April 2017, Donohue was found guilty and sentenced to a jail term.  Not satisfied with blocking the court system for four years with his frivolous and dishonest antics, he appealed the sentence and extended court procedures by another year.

On the date when the appeal was to be heard, Donohue abandoned his appeal and it was struck out.  He was immediately taken into custody and required to serve the remainder of his jail sentence. 

It took from ANZAC Day 2013 until 23 March 2018 for justice to be done.  The veteran and ex service community thank law enforcement and the Judiciary for their relentless actions.

 

 

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MAJOR GENERAL" DONAHUE - UPDATE - APR 17

Go to the very bottom of this page to see the latest update!

 

“Major General” Neville McBryde Donohue– Major General and Collingwood Supporter

Every now and then an incredibly stupid wannabe will bob his head up and be spotted by genuine Veterans.

  In this case the “head bobber” is “Major General” Neville Donohue from the picturesque Dandenong Ranges in Victoria.  Here is our man in all his “Generalship” glory:

 

 

Never before in the history of ANZMI have so many reports been sent, by so many, to so few (of us). Veteran forums and networks went viral and the above photograph taken at the Melbourne Cricket Ground (MCG) on ANZAC Day 2013 was flashed all over Australia. The power of the internet prevailed and another and more interesting photograph arrived identifying Donohue.

 

 

In this photograph, Donohue is seen giving a stirring ANZAC Day 2013 speech at St Michaels Church, Kalorama in Victoria, before heading off to the MCG, ANZAC Day Football match, between Essendon and Collingwood, where he paraded his mighty haul of fake medals.

Who is Major General Donohue? Of course any person who barracks for Collingwood football club has to be a bit suspicious, but being a Collingwood Supporter and wearing a huge array of fake Military medals and claiming to be a Major General confirms that he is less than a balanced person.

We are reliably advised by ex members of the Royal Australian Corps of Signals (RA Sigs) that the “General” is in fact ex Serviceman313847 Corporal Neville McBryde Donohue from the Kilsyth area of Victoria. He served in the Australian Army between 1970 and 1976 and was never deployed to any Operational Areas. He has confessed that most of the medals are fakes but says his Vietnam Medals are genuine. That is a lie. He may be entitled to only one medal the Australian Defence Medal (ADM). Perhaps it is just as well, that we have exposed him, as we all know the case of a Corporal becoming a Fuhrer.

This case incited even more interest from the Australian Veteran Community than the Hines Brothers seen here:   http://www.anzmi.net/hines/hines.html   

Like the Hines Brothers case, State Police were quick to swoop on Donohue and lay appropriate charges.

The Australian and New Zealand Veteran community are more than ever before, sensitive to frauds, wannabes and medals cheats. Those who take liberties are gambling that they will not be caught and named and shamed on our web site. In this gamble the odds are well stacked in favour of ANZMI. So go ahead make our day.

Donohue will have his day in court.

We will track him and report his disposition.

 

MAJOR GENERAL" DONAHUE - UPDATE - APR 17

After four years of lies, deceit and denial Donohue has been found guilty in a Melbourne Magistrates Court and earned a little prison time.  Even so, the idiot has appealed his conviction:  Here is the Newspaper coverage:

 

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We can see that the Magistrate got it all correct.  It is unfortunate that Donohue is still exercising his initiative by lodging an appeal.  Let's hope that he is given a harsher sentence as a result of the appeal.

 

This is published in the public interest, particularly that of the Vietnam Veteran Community. All information presented here is fact and the truth. Reports from private citizens are supported by statements of fact and statutory declarations.

Surname: Camper
Christian Names: Kevin Patrick
Country: Australia
State or Province: New South Wales
City or Town: Mollymook Beach
Service #: Nil
Service: Nil
Branch: Nil
Case Notes:

 

Kevin Patrick Camper has been walking the walk and talking the talk about his former Royal Australian Navy Reserve (RANR) service for the past thirty years. He currently resides in Mollymook Beach on the south coast of NSW and is a member of the Milton Rural Fire Service.

Over the years, Camper has made claims to colleagues that in the 1970s, he attended HMAS Creswell, Jervis Bay, for Officer Training RANR. He states that In just six weeks, he was commissioned as a Lieutenant in the RANR, allotted to the RAN Marine Engineering Branch as a Mechanical Draftsman, progressing to Commander and Captain, before discharging in the 1990s. He has claimed service as a RANR Commissioned Officer on HMAS Advance, a Royal Australian Navy Attack Class patrol boat, assigned for training to the RANR, Sydney Port Division, in February, 1982. He also claims service on Landing Craft Heavy (LCH) vessels during his service as well as sea time on HMAS Perth.

 


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In the above photographs, Camper is wearing a black beret with two hat badges. We are unaware of the significance of the black beret, other than it being a showpiece to attract attention.

Hat badges -;

1. Royal Australian Naval Reserve badge. Not entitled.
2. Naval Association of Australia (NAA) members badge.

 

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In the above photograph, Camper wears another NAA members badge on his left side lapel. Under his name tag, he wears a Royal Australian Navy "Lieutenants collar badge." He is not entitled to wear this badge.

On his left breast pocket, he wears the below displayed RAN Commissioned Officer’s metal badge. He has no entitlement to wear this accoutrement.



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He does not wear the Australian Defence Medal. (ADM) on his left breast, which would signify at least four years in the Australian Defence Force, including the RANR. If he was a genuine RANR Commissioned Officer, he would be wearing this medal.



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On the right hand side of his jacket, he correctly wears World War 2 ribbons that were possibly awarded to a relative.

His badges, beret, and relative’s ribbons, would indicate to general members of the Anzac Day viewing public, that he was a genuine former member of the Australian Defence Force. Sadly, he is not.

Members of the local veteran community have concerns regarding the Defence Force claims of Camper.

National Archives of Australia indicated that there is no record of a Kevin Patrick Camper ever serving in the Royal Australian Navy as a full time member, a Naval National Serviceman or the Royal Australian Navy Reserves.

ANZMI ascertained that Camper was a member of Training Ship (TS) Sirius, Australian Sea Cadet Corps in the 1970s. In 1973 it became the Australian Naval Cadets. Camper was the Executive Officer, Lieutenant, of Sirius in the 1980s. His Cadet Officer rank has no standing in the Australian Defence Force or in Veterans Associations recognition, and protocols dictate that he should not be claiming that it does.

TS Sirius was a Cadet Unit at Oatley in Sydney before moving premises to Arncliffe, and then to Rockdale. It caters for young boys and girls in their early teens, who may desire a Naval career when they are older.

ANZMI contacted the current Administrator of the TS Sirius Facebook site, to ascertain a contact number for Kevin Patrick Camper, to invite Camper to respond to the allegations. The Administrator failed to assist and abused ANZMI for trying to contact one of their former members and threatened police action. Those threats do not concern ANZMI as we take care in only revealing the truth. We take his ridiculous response as a closure of ranks and a cover up.

Camper was eligible to join the Naval Association of Australia due to his apparent Sea Cadet service at T.S Sirius..

He has embellished his modest Sea Cadet service and promoted himself to a former Captain in the Royal Australian Navy Reserves.

For that promotion, he has earned the right to appear on this site.

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